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Sport Talk - By Glen Atwell

Chris Judd to Carlton

October 4th 2007 11:18
Chris Judd has finally made the move back to his homeland Victoria.

His club of choice, or preferance perhaps, is Carlton.

Am I the only one thinking 'what the...?'

Essendon, Collingwood and Carlton were his three picks, and from my perspective, Juddy eliminated the two most successful and strategically positioned clubs in the league.

Sure Essendon have a terrible list at the moment, but they also bob up for a premiership, 1984, 1985, 1993, 2000. It's a cycle of success.

Collingwood have a hardcore following, won a flag in 1990 and have come close against the unstoppable Brisbane Lions earlier this decade.


So why did Judd choose Carlton?

Money? Somehow I don't think the best footballer in the league would be motivated by cash.

$5million or $4million over five or six years? The point I'm trying to make is that money, in those vast amounts, doesn't figure in the final decision. It's not like it's the difference between three of four bedrooms is it?

Judd has chosen Carlton because of Richard Pratt and the young, burgeoning list that will threaten the competition leaders in the next year or so. Murphy, Gibbs and the next star Carlton recruits will shape up quickly as a force to be reckoned with.

But will it breed success, like the Collingwood and the Essendon's tend to do?

Only time will. But one thing is for sure, it's good to have Judd back in Victorian heartland!

Glen Atwell.
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Comment by Norm

October 5th 2007 00:48
Glen,
time has already told.
Carlton: 16 premierships.
As many as Essendon.
More than Collingwood.
Whether he winds up there or not, something else.
Norm

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 5th 2007 02:34
Hi Norm,

I see your point, but I think Carlton have been challenged, from a fundamental and structural point of view, since the salary cap problems.

Pratt is a massive asset for the club, and the young list will make the top eight, perhaps in 2008 or certainly in 2009.

Judd wants premierships, so Carlton fans should rejoice in his decision - it means more cups are on the way!

Comment by Anonymous

October 6th 2007 08:28
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME RIGHT????? WHY WOULDNT HE CHOOSE CARLTON??? TAKE A LOOK AT THE TALENT IN THE TEAM. THE ONLY REASON, ONLY REASON I REPEAT THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW AND HAVE BEEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED, HENCE THEIR PERFORMANCES HAVE BEEN ERRATIC AND INCONSISTENT. WITH AGE COMES MATURITY AND EXPERIENCE AND THEN LOOK OUT..CARLTON WILL ONCE MORE RULE THE ROOST AS IN THE PAST. AND JUST REMEMBER WHO HAS WON THE MOST AFL PREMIERSHIPS??? DO I HEAR THE WORD CARLTON..YES CARLTON..SO Your text goes hereYour text goes hereTHEY ARE THE BEST PERFORMED AFL TEAM OF ALL TIME..NOT COLLINGWOOD WHO CHOKE...NOT ESSENDON WHOSE LIST DOESNT HAVE HALF THE POTENTIAL AS CARLTONS DOES..JUDD IS SMART, JUDD "STUDIES THE FORM" AND CAN TELL POTENTIAL A MILE OFF AND HE WILL BE IN THE TEAM AS IT BEGINS ITS RISE AND PASSES ALL THE OTHER TEAMS HE LOOKED AT .. JUST REMEMBER THAT...CARLTON WILL BE PREMIERS WAY BEFORE COLLINGWOOD, ESSENDON OR MELBOURNE OF THAT YOU CAN BE SURE..Your text goes here

Comment by Anonymous

October 6th 2007 09:48
Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, Ohh I think Carlton have done that already.
With Carlton taking its current position with West Coast in relation to the trade deal, I can not see how Carlton can secure him. They have until Tuesday to close the deal.
If the deal is not secured then Richmond will have first shot at him with the #2 pick as Carlton will use the #1 pick to secure Kreuzer.
Richmond should not jump in bed with Carlton on the issue and should secure him for themselves.
Atleast st this stage West Coast can still negotiate with the Tigers to get some sort of compensation for the #1 player in the AFL.
Judd to the Tigers anyone want to give me odds?

Comment by Anonymous

October 6th 2007 22:03
i will give you odds at 500 to 1 that chris judd wont be at the tigers, and this comes from a tigers source. so if you want the odds lets do it.

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 7th 2007 03:19
Glad to see we're facilitating bets here. I'd put $10 on it at 500-1!

As someone said, the pressure is now on Carlton to close the deal. They have said they won't trade pick number one.

If you were West Coast, would you accept anything less than the first pick for the league's top player?


Comment by Anonymous

October 7th 2007 08:27
West Coast have no choice....they have to take the best offer given..or else receive nothing. Judd is out of contract, has stated he only wants to play with Carlton so either West Coast deal before Tuesday, for pick 3 and Kennedy or Carlton block Eagles out by dealing with Richmond (who, before some people say "Richmond will want him for themselves" WONT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE PRICE TAG JUDD PUTS ON HIMSELF TO DELIBERATELY AVOID RICHMOND BEING ABLE TO TAKE HIM IN THE END OF YEAR DRAFT)..so Carlton give Richmond pick 3 in this draft and get pick 18 in return, and Richmond agree by contract to overlook Judd in the end of year draft, giving Carlton the chance to get him FOR FREE..so West Coast either look like idiots for losing their best player for free...or bite the bullet and take 3 and Kennedy...they have no bargaining power..TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT

Comment by Anonymous

October 7th 2007 08:44
What Eagles want and what Eagles actually get are two different things. We dont always get what we want in life, have to take the best we can get. Eagles have already eased on asking for Pick 1, they know its off the table, read todays papers. They have been asking for unobtainable things, realise now time is running out and risk being hung by their members if they lose Judd for nothing, so will lower their sights and start being more reasonable. Carlton dont have to give in to their demands. Judd has stated his intentions and he doesnt have to just go wherever W.C.E. say, he is out of contract and doesnt want to play anywhere else except Carlton, he has made that clear to them. They have to facilitate his requests and get the best they can in return or else lose him for nothing. He did the right thing by them before signing the last contract. He could have left then, but resigned for another 2 years.

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 7th 2007 12:51
Why is Judd above every other player in the competition with wants and demands? Hoard of players seek out new clubs when coming out of contract, except most do it quietly without media attention every day.

Judd deliberately allowed the media into his negotiations to try and add credence, or boldness, to his choice.

At the end of the day, straight up, where he wants to go means nothing. West Coast want to get value out of the deal, that's a given, but Carlton (especially) won't handicap themselves by losing the first draft pick for Judd.

Richmond won't come to the party and help out Carlton or West Coast.

The Eagles just have to bite the bullet, clean up their drug-ridden club and prevent stars from wanting to depart in the first place.

West Coast to finish outside the eight next season - you read it first at Sport Talk!

Comment by Anonymous

October 8th 2007 18:01
Hey Glen
Nice blog mate.

I think the main reason Juddy chose the Blues is because of the culture at the club.

Success would have came about alot quicker with the Pies, but recent history of trouble-making would have steered him to Carlton.

Now, with Judd the Blues list looks alot more attractive and finals will more than likely come about next season.

I welcome the greatest player of the modern game to the more than capable hands of the Carlton Football Club.

Peace out.

Dustin

Comment by Anonymous

October 9th 2007 09:29
From the distance of Queensland it is good to see that some things haven't changed in the AFL.

The tradition continues with Carlton buying the best players and having another President who is a crook.

Perhaps we need to wait and see what the peanlties are for the club and the President this time!

Comment by Anonymous

October 9th 2007 13:09
LMAO..another jealous person....Carlton doesnt have to "buy" the best players....the best player wants to come to Carlton..lol..he CHOSE us..so instead of the "sour grapes" speeches..cos your club didnt get him...suck it up and grow up. There will be no "penalties" for the club..it has nothing to do with the club. If Judd chose YOUR club...would you be whinging then? NO..you would be celebrating...tough..he didnt he chose us..ha ha ha

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 9th 2007 23:41
To be honest, I have to agree. Brisbane have been more than looked after, and it's about time the quality crop returned to AFL homeland.

I probably should be impartial, and I don't barrack for Carlton.

But stuff it, I hope Judd signs with Carlton, I hope Pratt continues to rort the cardboard industry and I hope Victorian clubs win the next 20 flags in a row!

How's that for size?

Comment by go tiges

October 10th 2007 01:51
hahahah i wonder if i could still get a piece of that 500 - 1 on offer.

Judd will be at richmond next year for sure -0 whether he likes it or not!!!

just ask nick stevens huh carlton supporters?

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 10th 2007 04:07
forgot about that little gem of a bet! would be nice to get a piece of the pie now.

hang on, i did put $10 on it! hooray. that's the problem with anonymous posters!

get an account and post so i can track down my dosh when judd goes to richmond!

Comment by Anonymous

October 10th 2007 04:09
LOL AND I BELIEVE IN THE EASTER BUNNY..OMG RICHMOND HAVENT A CHANCE IN HELL OF GETTING JUDD..LOL..HE DOESNT WANT TO PLAY FOR RICHMOND..YOU SEEM TO BE FORGETTING THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE TRADE..LOL..KEEP DREAMING RICHMOND..HE WILL NEVER NEVER PLAY FOR YOU...THE DEAL WITH CARLTON WILL BE DONE OF THAT YOU CAN BE SURE..ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME..EAGLES WONT LET HIM GO FOR FREE AND JUDD WANTS TO GO TO CARLTON..SO ITS ALL RUMOURS AND INNUENDO AT THE MOMENT..DONT BELIEVE HALF THE STUFF YOU HEAR..WHAT IS A CERTAINTY IS THAT HE WILL LINE UP FOR THE BLUES NEXT YEAR..LOL...CARNA BLUE BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 10th 2007 04:53
Yay! Mr Caps has returned. I agree with most of your points, but the rumour and innuendo is what keeps us all going, including Sport Talk and the major newspapers for that matter.

Facts are so boring!

Comment by Anonymous

October 10th 2007 04:53
judd only chose carlton cos pratt is offering $500,000 more than the next side is. he is a money hungry little man, with dodgy groins. the culture at carlton will consume him, and he will become accustomed to failure. by choosing carlton, judd may have played his last final!!

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 10th 2007 05:20
That's magnificent! Love it.

he is a money hungry little man, with dodgy groins

That's Gold!

Comment by Jeanette - Go Blues

October 10th 2007 05:20
LMAO ok firstly Glen its not "Mr Caps" its Mrs..and I use caps when im annoyed and have to "raise my voice"...lol..accentuates the words..and i'm sick of being "anonymous" so im using my name...the first caps speech was my first entry on here..ive made 4 more without caps since..this is my fifth..lol..gotta stick up for my team, we've been the easy beats for too long (only cos the boys are young and still developing). Anyway to the "jealous" person whose club obviously isnt Carlton and whose club therefore will not be acquiring Judd, lol..(probably a Collingwood supporter..cant get over the fact that Judd chose Carlton over them..lmao..i love it..another in the eye for Eddie)..anyway..getting back to the point..there is no "culture" at Carlton which is precisely why Judd chose Carlton..he doesnt want a club full of drugs, and ongoing off-field trouble by the players (we only have Fev..lol..and Fev's just Fev..a little immature at times, but damn talented..imagine how good he will be when he actually grows up..lmao). The boys are all young, talented and have a tremendous future ahead of them. Judd will blend in nicely with them, bringing tremendous leadership and experience to help out Nick Stevens (Nick will be captain though I'm sure of it..captaincy has to be earnt and Nick deserves it). Judd should be vice-captain purely for his experience and leadership. And as far as a "losing culture" .. lmao how many premierships does your team have???? 16 like Carlton?? (and Essendon too I have to add).. The only reason we lose is like i said, young boys still developing..Any team that bites the bullet and starts there whole team over from scratch with youth would be in exactly the same position we are in at the moment. Give em time, then we will show you. It doesnt happen over night..but it will happen (Thanks Rachel Hunter for that little phrase..lol). Then there will be a 17th Premiership for the boys and I will be the first to do the "I Told You So" dance..lol..

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 10th 2007 05:28
Hi Jeanette. Apologies for the Mr confusion. I liked your post, you raise some great points.

In the midst of hard times, people often forget the good times, and just how much success a club has had (this principle can also be applied to life in general).

I am certain that money was some motivation for Judd to side with the Blues, and money is something Carlton is not short of now with Pratt on board (minus the big fine he is facing).

But he will fit in and would have been attracted to playing with a bunch of young stars, and some crazy ones (Fev and Satanta) in the years to come.

Comment by Jeanette - Go Blues

October 10th 2007 05:36
lol..Setanta crazy?..lmao he is fantastic..plays with the passion of a kid playing his first junior game of football. So infectious, so great to watch. I wish all the AFL guys played with his determination and passion, he is a joy to watch. He nearly implodes with excitement when he kicks a goal, raises his arms, roars like he has just kicked the winning goal in the grand final...thats the kind of passion spectators pay to see..I love it

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 10th 2007 05:57
I agree. He is great to watch.

Comment by Anonymous

October 10th 2007 06:52
Collingwood successful..
One flag in almost fifty years.
Enough said.

Comment by Glen Atwell

October 10th 2007 23:32
Can't argue with the statistics people!

Comment by Jeanette - Go Blues

October 11th 2007 06:13
Ahhhhhhh the Judd deal is done..time for the "I Told You So Dance"...."I TOLD YOU SO, I TOLD YOU SO, I TOLD YOU, TOLD YOU, TOLD YOU SO"..LOL..Never in doubt..all those bets on him going to Richmond..you just did your money..lmao..GO BLUES, GO JUDDY YEAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Anonymous

October 12th 2007 02:39
To all the spastics saying he went to Carlton for money... It all still falls under the salary cap u fools! And Judd isnt the type of bloke to go chasing money, he is after success which he can see Carlton will have in the near future. He chose Carlton because he wants to play at Carlton over the other clubs. Not for any other reason! Enough Said!

Comment by ilovemarcmurphy

October 27th 2007 05:15
CHRISS JUDDD
IS SO FKN STUPIDD!!
I LOVE KENNEDY
AND MARC MURPHYYYY

Comment by Anonymous

November 12th 2007 08:31
i hope carlton get ben cousins aswell it will be an awesome team

Comment by Jeanette - Go Blues

November 16th 2007 00:42
Noooooooooooooooooooooo Carlton do NOT want Ben Cousins. Why do you think Judd left W.C.E? to get away from all the crap that was going on there. He is a professional athlete, doesnt want to associate with "those" kinds of people. Wanted to go to a professional club that didnt have a drug culture, eg. Carlton. No WAY do Carlton need a druggie like Ben Cousins coming along and influencing our younger kids. ugggggggggg. He can dabble in drugs and underworld people elsewhere NOT AT CARLTON!!!!!!!!!

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